I for one, welcome him home and wish to show my appreciation for his courage, and hard work. We all have seen it in the movies, and some of us have even lived through it, but being in the military is not easy. It requires not only physical strength, but emotional strength as well.

I just want to say to JPalsey, who I think ships out via Germany today or tomorrow.... welcome home soldier. You make me proud. Thank you for all you have done.... and the blue banner that runs across this webpage... is for people like you. Now go get in that Lincoln and take it for a drive... even without starting the motor. Just sit in it. Feel the freedom of being behind the wheel of something that symbolizes the very reason you were away from us for so long. You made it. Cherrish this moment.

DISMISSED!
-Black Ice
94 black/black
95 champagne/saddle

Welcome back to where "times stands still".
There are "no words" that could express my appreciation and gratitude for people such as yourself.

Your sacrifice, your commitment, your perserverance.. ALL make us proud to have you representing us across the globe.

I hope you make it home safe, and sound...and like craig so eloquently put it above..

"Welcome home Soldier"!
&
"WELL DONE!"

J Pasley,
Welcome home soldier. We are proud and in debt to you. It's people like you that allow us to complain about miniscule things like..."my brake light went out, what do I do?"

I have served four years and I know the hard work it takes (altho I can't imagine being in Iraq). Job well done! You are VERY welcome to this site. We are honored to have you.

Salute!!!

As an Air Force vet of the early-70's, my hat's off to JP as well. Well done, brother. It's just too God-damned bad that the lamestream media refuses to report all of the good things you've helped to bring about in Iraq. Pay no attention to those people behind the curtain.

Scott

I dont understand what's wrong with this country. A kid goes off to war, and someone on his own team screws him behind his back. There should be a stiffer penalty than usual for messing with those who protect our borders! Thats like kicking your own guard dog.
-Black Ice
94 black/black
95 champagne/saddle

But the address and phone number of the other company is.
Auto Shipping Company
Box 2567
California City, CA 93505
(800) 305-9998
Is there anybody living in the Walpole, MA area.

New company name.
Chip's Towing & Transport Service
Chip's Transport Service
B&C Towing Corporation
Company address: 295 Union Street
East Walpole, MA 02081

Original business start date: 1979
Type of entity: Corporation
Principal: Kevin Robert Wallace, President
Number of employees: 16
Phone number: 508-660-8900
Fax Number: 508-660-8909
BBB Membership Status: BBB Member
Date joined BBB: 12/16/98
Type of business: AUTOMOBILE TRANSPORTERS & DRIVE AWAY COMPANIES

Web site address: http://www.chipstransport.com

Calvin Louie
94 Mark VIII - Dark Portofino Blue/Portofino Blue

WELCOME HOME JP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No way that this old marine can tell you just how much all of us appreciate what you and your fellow soldiers and marines have/are doing/done.

Now it is our turn. Let's start a calling campaign on this scumbag outfit that won't return your deposit. I for one will be calling as soon as I get offline.

Let us know how it all turns out.

Guys, we should all hammer on these jerks. I mean all it takes is tying up that 800 number with a load of calls that THEY have to pay for!!!!!!

1. How much was the deposit with the first company?

2. How did you pay the deposit (check, money order, credit card)?

3. Did you have a written agreement with the first company?

I suggest that you call the Oklahoma State Attorney General's office, and explain your problem with the deposit. If they can't help you (but I'll bet they can), they will be able to refer you to the regulatory agency that can - perhaps the DOT/ICC. You'll have some other legal options as well.

The woman I was talking with apparently had received othe calls, as she immediately went on the defensive with me and tried to say it was all Jonell's fault.

Said she couldn't refund deposit because of all phone calls, etc. they had to make.

I asked why they were in dutch with BBB, she said because of people's false accusations on them.

In closing, I told her I didn't think she would get any more business from the lincoln site. She replied "Thay's fine, they're big and hard to load anyway".

We need a bunch more calls.

To answer your questions;
The deposit was $145.00.
The Company received a Check and cashed the check on the 9th of November.
There was a written agreement with the company. also a lot of broken promises.

It really feels good to know that you have strong people behind you to give you a hand when you need one.

And as for calls I Told her that I need the car pick up because the car lot I got the car from was going to start charging storage fee. and she said that she would call them and talk to them. She told them that she would pick the car up within the week and never picked the car up.

If the company violated any term(s) of the written agreement, then you have a case for a lawsuit in small claims court, which you would file in the county where you live in OK. This is very easy to do, and you do not need to retain an attorney. There will, however, be a small filing fee and some expense involved in serving the summons to the company in California; however, you can add any and all of these expenses to the amount of damages you seek from the company. In all honesty, what will happen if you do this is that no one from the transport company will appear in court, and therefore you will win by what is known as a summary judgement. However, it will be very difficult, if not impossible for you to actually collect from them.

Call the AG's office on Monday, then let me know what they say. If they can't help you, I'll offer some advice on what you should do next.

Looks like a few others have had trouble with The Auto Shipping Company, and eventually got their deposits back. Johnell, you might try posting your complaint at this site.

-Joel

"I have received phone calls and letters from members of your club. I would like to let you know that I have done 100's of service men and womens' cars for nearly my cost because of their service for our freedom. Because of this one move that had circumstances that are not mentioned in Mr. Pasley's letter, I have become a very bad person.

Mr. Pasley states that he could not reach my e-mail because I had blocked him. For the record, I do not even know how to block an e-mail address. I was in contact with his mother almost on a daily basis (again which he does not mention).

Because of the nature of our business we do not guarantee delivery or pick up dates and this was explained verbally and in writing to him before he placed the order with us. Also, he was moving the car during the holidays which is a little slower than usual. We also had weather back east at this time.

I am not making excuses, but there is more than one side to this story and it seems before someone starts blaming, judging and condemning they should give the other side a chance.

It by the way was never stated that a refund would not be given. I personally told him to send a cancellation letter (which we need with a signature) to receive a refund. To date, no letter has been received."

Well, I think the guy is right, and now we have his side of the story. Johnell - one of two things must be true. Either you misunderstood the company's position (contracts can be confusing and/or complicated), or, they're changing their tune due to all of the heat and adverse publicity they're getting from the good folks here. I, for one, suggest that we give them the benefit of the doubt, and the opportunity to do the right thing. Send them the cancellation letter with your signature (which is a reasonable request from a legal standpoint), and be sure to include the date of the original agreement, the contract number (if there is one), and state specifically that you want your deposit refunded to you. If it were me, I would send the letter by certified or registered mail with signature confirmation. Keep us posted.

My belief is based on the point that the woman I talked with used the same points and excuses as were related to you by the owner. But this woman was adament in that they had spent too much time, and too many phone calls had been made by them to refund a deposit. NO mention was made of a written cancellation letter.

It is possible, I suppose, that the right hand (the person you spoke with) doesn't know what the left hand (the person who emailed me) is doing. However, I tend to doubt this as well, because in my email I alluded to the fact that Johnell's tale of woe might "spread" to the TCCOA, as well as various Mustang clubs. I asked if he thought those cars were "big and difficult to load" as well (that comment really irked me). As you can see, there was absolutely no reference to that question in the reply I received. If he didn't know about your conversation with the lady, one would think he would have asked me what the heck I was talking about.

I think that was a mistake. For some reason, my post wasnt exactly "welcome" on that board. For the sake of avoiding a controversy, I will simply say that I spent quite alot of time defending my request on the other board. It seemed that the words I chose to write in my post were completely misunderstood, and people thought I was begging that they either raise money to help Mr. Pasley recover his losses, or I would think they were cold and heartless. For the record, I used the same words I had written here. I dont think any of you thought we were on a fund-raiser here. We were simply trying to do what we could to help rectify Mr. Pasley's situation.

I regret that I cannot go into much detail about exactly what went down on the other site, but I assure you, I wasnt very popular for several hours. I was finally able to get my point through, and no one has written anything since.

I wrote an apology to anyone I may have offended(shrugs), and left matters the way they lay.

I am just very happy that all of you who have applied your efforts on Mr. Pasley's behalf have lived up to the type of people I thought you all were. Caring, un-selfish, generous, and dedicated to being helpful to people. Unfortunately, that didnt happen on the other site. Again, let me make it clear, I may have chosen words that many didnt understand.(shrugs even bigger).

Lesson learned. Home is where the heart is.... I am home. But I did learn something very valuable over there: I now know where to buy a decal kit to make my refridgerator look like a tool box!

Please post any advancements in this situation Mr. Pasley, so I can update the other site. There were a few who expressed concern. Just a few though. I would like to cater to those who showed kindness.

-Black Ice
94 black/black
95 champagne/saddle

I was told that the car would be made available the week of the 24th of November. I saw that that was Thanksgiving weekend so I gave it until the after Thanksgiving.
I sent emails asking for the progress and didn't get a response, two emails came back unanswered, so I had my mother call and talk to her. I even called from Baghdad and had the Auto Shipping Company call the company that had the car. She told him she would have the car picked up within the week, another broken promise. And the car was still not picked up. I left Baghdad, Iraq and went to Friedberg, Germany on the 02 of December and I called The Auto shipping company on the 4th, 8th, 11th, 12th, 15th and got the status updates as follows "The Truck is in the area and will pickup your car in the next two days, There was a storm in the area and everything is behind. The truck is in the area and will pickup your car anyway." on the 12th I was given the number to her dispatcher who told me that they where having trouble finding a truck going in the direction that my car was going.
I asked for a date of pickup and she could not give me a date but told me that I could cancel my order and find someone else to ship my car. I got off the phone with this lady and called The Auto Shipping Company back and she told me that she would not refund me any money. On the 15th I called she had no good news so I found another company to ship my car.

Note: I didn’t even realize that I was not the only person that has had a similar complaint about this company. After all of this I found there Name on WWW.BBB.ORG and then this Post led me to the rip-off sight where there name is posted up again.
I think that she has had a change of heart about refunding my money because of the mass force that this message board has. “The only other person that has felt this force is Saddam “.
I well say that after the rude way she told me that she would not refund my money on the phone I didn’t send her a written request to refund my deposit. Again because she told me on the phone that she was NOT going to refund my money.
I am thanking every member of this board for your strong support in this matter regardless of the outcome. I don’t want be negative towards anybody but this is not a company that I would recommend to anyone.

Note: Thank You all again. And I was surprised as to how the member responded from my message.

And I also don't think that they would have looked at my letter requesting a refund without the influnce of this board.
In the morning I'm sending my letter for return with return receipt requested.

"Thank you for looking at both sides of the story. I have thought long and hard about this. Since I have gotten quite a bit of feed back from your group, and I believe that numbers count, I have decided to return Mr. Pasley 's deposit. I am a fair person and belive that this is the right thing to do.

I want to thank you for taking the time to read and understand my side of the story. Because of your kindness and understanding I do want to make a refund to him."

Sincerely,
The Auto Shipping Company

I don't normally like to reveal private emails, but in this case I don't think they'll mind. Were they trying to screw you, and did an about-face because of the heat they got from here? Or, was your case simply a misunderstanding? I don't know, of course. If this guy has indeed provided discounted services to hundreds of military personnel (as he claims), he can't be all that bad. If you want my personal opinion, it sounds to me like he needs to replace the beeoch that handles the phone calls.

-Joel.

I wanted to wish him a happy, and safe homecoming. I am very touched by the out pouring of support and open hearted kindness you have all expressed.

I had no idea this would turn into a rally of our forces to assist our brother in his time of need.

Mr. Pasley, you shouldered your weapon, loaded up your gear, and headed out into battle to defend the world against terrorism. For that, we are forever greatful. When you came home to us, you were left fighting a force beyond your weapons scope, and beyond your field of vision.

I cannot express how thrilled I am that this situation appears to be resolved... successfully. I want to say thanks to all of the members who came to Mr. Pasley's aid, and took this on as a personal goal to help him. You have all done a wonderful job.

This whole thread serves as a reminder of how people can come together to help a fellow citizen who has been wronged.

I know the personal struggle I went through behind the scenes with Private messages, warnings, and just uglyness on "the other site" on the behalf of Mr. Pasley was all worth it.
Just to prove a point, I posted Gale's last post on the other site(names withheld of course) just to prove a personal point. People do care!

J Pasley, please be sure to tell us all when your refund is in your hand. Then we can lock this thread in the archives, and celebrate a victory.

Bless you everyone. I am proud to know you all..... and to think this all started... over a car.
-Black Ice
94 black/black
95 champagne/saddle

Wait a minute,....No 2 bit member(s) of that "OTHER SITE" is (are) going to abuse our own BlackIce & get away with it. Only we can do that. I am madder than hell now, and I ain't gonna take it anymore!
BlackIce, come clean with the name of that "OTHER SITE" so we can get down to business with them.
"Send Message Now Key Locked & Loaded"

OK, only kidding.
Nice job BlkIce & all the others. Very Nice!
Steve C.

Yeah, probably. And to think that I've actually won district wide spelling bees when I was little... Scary, isn't it?