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upncummingWed Aug-25-04 06:44 PM
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"Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!"


          

I've seen many questions here on this forum about converting to Mustang PBR calipers and yet I've not seen anyone here that has done it, so here is the answer: IT IS AN EASY CONVERSION!!! I just finished up doing it and it works GREAT!!!

This conversion has been on the TCCOA board (http://www.tccoa.com/) for quite some time, and since the spindles of the 93-97 T-Birds are the same as the Mark VIII, the proof is in how many members of that board have done the conversion successfully.

I know I recently called one of the "Mark VIII experts" who told me that it couldn't be done because "some bracket" was in the way or some other nonsense, and that "someone had tried it last week and it didn't work." Hmmm........I wonder if he said that because he has his own kit for sale........I am NOT in the car business in any way shape or form, and I do NOT have any conversion kits for sale. I am simply writing to help out other Mark VIII owners who have had enough of their crappy brakes and warped rotors and long stopping distances and do not want to spend $1100 for a Brembo kit on top of the cost for new wheels and tires, and wind up with more money in brakes, tires and wheels than their car is worth...

Here are two links to the information that will make this conversion easy to do:

http://home.flash.net/~rfm2/pbrdual.htm

http://www.mn12performance.com/mn12how-to/brake_upgrade/brake_upgrade.htm

I drive the highways in Atlanta and I have been impressed with how much better my braking has been since doing the conversion. Stopping distances are shorter, the pedal feels a little firmer, and I have much more confidence in my brakes than I did before. For any of you that have driven in Atlanta, you know what it's like....pretty much like any big city....0 to 60 and then back down to 20 in a hearbeat...back up to 50 and back down to 0...etc....these brakes work well!

By the way, I didn't spend a lot of money in doing this changeover. I picked up a set of 93-97 T-Bird Rotors (10.87", non-sport suspension), used late model Mustang calipers and Caliper Brackets with Banjo Bolts from that Mustang. (You cannot use the old Banjo Bolts from the Mark). My parts came from a low mileage 2000 V6 Mustang, (they are the same as the GT's calipers...identical, no difference whatsoever), new crush washers, new 8044 Carbon Friction Metallic pads from Autozone ($38.99), DOT 3 Brake Fluid, and the printed instructions from the above links. The ONLY modification was described in the first link above, and that modification took all of about 15 minutes........

For those of you who may say "Yeah, but my Mark's rotors are larger than the T-Bird's rotors and I don't want to use a smaller rotor"....Look at the difference in the size of the rotors....The difference is minimal, but if you look at the difference in the Calipers, you'll see why this brake change is effective. You've got much more surface area from the Mustang's brake pads and you've got dual piston calipers.

It IS a nice changeover....and NOT expensive.



  

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97 Mark VIII LSCThu May-27-04 10:53 AM
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I'm glad someone has done this. A while ago I posted a question on the TCCoA board about downsizing to the MN12 rotors and the PBR calipers.

That post generated much, much discussion:

http://forums.tccoa.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28933

The general concensus was that the two piston was better than the slightly larger diameter rotor.

I'm going to post a link to this post over on the TCCoA board since I think you're the first person that has actually done the swap.

97 LSC w/4.6L DOHC
94 Thunderbird w/4.6L SOHC
69 F100 w/460
76 CV-23 Glastron Carlson Jetboat w/460 CJ

  

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upncummingThu May-27-04 11:08 AM
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By the way, I am still using my stock chrome 16" directionals and there is no clearance problem!!!

  

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RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, Avu3, May 27th 2004, #3
      RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, Lloyd330, May 27th 2004, #4
           RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, Austin_F, May 28th 2004, #5
                RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, BlackIceLSC, May 28th 2004, #6
                RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, callouie, May 28th 2004, #7
                RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, Austin_F, May 28th 2004, #10
                     RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, callouie, May 28th 2004, #11
                     RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, Austin_F, May 29th 2004, #12
                          RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, callouie, May 29th 2004, #13
                               RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, XLRVIII, Jun 02nd 2004, #15
                     RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, Mensan, Jun 04th 2004, #16
                          RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, XLRVIII, Jun 04th 2004, #17
                          RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, callouie, Jun 04th 2004, #18
                               RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, jfrahm, Jun 04th 2004, #19
                                    RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, M8SHOSCGuy, Jun 06th 2004, #20
                                         RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, jfrahm, Jun 06th 2004, #21
                RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, Avu3, May 28th 2004, #8
                RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, rpward210, May 28th 2004, #9
                     RE: Converting to NON Cobra Mustang PBR Calipers is easy!!!, a Bill, May 30th 2004, #14
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