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rfoxWed Jun-07-06 04:40 PM
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"Which plate in Pa? Antique,Classic or Collectible"


          

Hello, I am in process of restoring a 67 Merc Caliente.
The regs 4 Antique & Classic state that the vehicle must be close to original..mine is not (6"hoodscoop,guages mounted on cowl,etc)
whereas a collectible must be in "show quality as determined by Penn Dot" & mine is not.
One scenario would be to get either of the first two plates by sending in pics of a 67 in stock form and if an issue arose I could always say I did the mods afterwords, BUT could the plate be revoked or could they compel me to return the car to stock form.
I was pulled over many years ago & they told me to remove the window stickers &the top part of my scoop &show themthe completed work.
I dont want to invite a hassle w/Police,OR red tape w/Penn-Dott

thanks for your time,Bob

97 LSC 131k Deep Navy Blue/Tan
67 Merc Caliente TMU Metallic Green/Black

  

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Gale155Wed Jun-07-06 10:08 PM
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#1. "RE: Which plate in Pa? Antique,Classic or Collectible"
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Wed Jun-07-06 10:10 PM by Gale155

  

          

I'm afraid this question is out of my league since I'm not familiar with PA laws regarding these special plates, so I have no opinion (a response I use with my wife quite often ). Since you were stopped previously, and the cops went to all the trouble of inspecting the work on your car, you'd probably be wise not to deviate too far from the letter of the law. I don't know about PA, but MO places some significant restrictions on how vehicles with its "historic" license plates can be used, and troopers do check them out from time to time:

Historic License Plates

To qualify for historic license plates, a vehicle must be 25 years old or older, owned solely as a collector’s item, and used for exhibition and educational purposes.

Historic vehicles may be driven to and from events and to repair facilities within a 100 mile limit, and may be driven up to 1000 miles per year for personal use. The owner is responsible for keeping a log of the miles driven for personal use each calendar year. The log must be kept in the vehicle when the vehicle is being driven on any state road.

Historic license plates are a permanent registration and cannot be transferred. If you sell or dispose of the vehicle, you must return the plates to the Missouri Department of Revenue.

How to Apply for Historic License Plates:

You will need to complete, sign, and submit an Application for Missouri Historic or Personalized Historic License Plates, form DOR-570, with the following documents and fee:

1. Your current original county or St. Louis City personal property tax receipt or non-assessment statement;
2. A copy of the insurance card or other acceptable proof of financial responsibility for the vehicle being registered;
3. A copy of the vehicle's title or registration (pink) receipt; and
4. A registration fee of $25.25 (this is a one-time fee for regular historic plates);
5. A $3.50 processing fee.


Sorry I couldn't be of more help...perhaps someone familiar with these PA laws will chime in.


Gale
Ex-Mark VIII Owner (for now)
06 Monte Carlo SS, 12K miles

  

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Viol8orWed Jun-07-06 11:08 PM
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#2. "RE: Which plate in Pa? Antique,Classic or Collectible"
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Wed Jun-07-06 11:24 PM by Viol8or

          

> I dont want to invite a hassle w/Police,OR red tape
>w/Penn-Dott
>

Seems if you go to the weekend car shows around here (greater Pittsburgh) you will see a number of either antique or classic plates on modified cars. Substantially in conformity with the manufacturers specs isn't an exact science.

By definition:

Antique Motor Vehicle - A motor vehicle, but not a reproduction thereof, manufactured more than 25 years prior to the current year which has been maintained in or restored to a condition which is substantially in conformance with manufacturer specifications.

Classic Motor Vehicle - A motor vehicle, but not a reproduction thereof, manufactured at least 15 years prior to the current year which has been maintained in or restored to a condition which is substantially in conformity with manufacturer specifications and appearance.

USE OF ANTIQUE AND CLASSIC REGISTRATION PLATES
The use of antique and classic plates is governed by Section 1340 of the Pennsylvania Vehicle Code which states: “It is unlawful for any person to operate a motorcycle or vehicle with antique and classic registration plates for general daily transportation. Permitted use shall be limited to participation in club activities, exhibits, tours, parades, occasional transportation and similar uses.” Occasional transportation and similar uses is defined as one day a week.

If it wasn't for the driving restriction of once a week, I would register my Mark VIII as a classic in 19 months.

PS: I had a 67 Caliente back in 1973. Good luck restoring that car. You'd probably want to do something to soup up the performance. So I can see your concern with mods.

  

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rfoxFri Jun-09-06 02:03 PM
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thanks 4 the input...
I believe I have another option..
If I got the car registered in Florida (mom lives there)
all issues pertaining to Pa wouldnt apply!

Bob
97 LSC 131k Deep Navy Blue/Prarie Tan
67 Merc Caliente TMU Metallic Green/Black

  

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