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jnicklo
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226 posts		 Sep-25-03, 10:27 PM (EST)
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"Top Speed?"
 
   For a 1st Gen Mark VIII...

what is the top speed for...


- STOCK w/ 3.08's

- Reinhart Chip w/ 3.08's


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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: Top Speed? devilinblackteam Sep-25-03 1
     RE: Top Speed? jnicklo Sep-25-03 2
         RE: Top Speed? devilinblackteam Sep-25-03 3
             RE: Top Speed? dbu8554 Sep-26-03 4
                 RE: Top Speed? rpward210team Sep-27-03 5
                 RE: Top Speed? Prometheous Sep-28-03 6
                     RE: Top Speed? jfrahmmoderator Sep-29-03 7
                         RE: Top Speed? Mark 8 Oct-07-03 8
  RE: Top Speed? BlackIceLSCteam Oct-07-03 9
     RE: Top Speed? EmminentThunder Oct-07-03 10
         RE: Top Speed? BlackIceLSCteam Oct-07-03 11
             RE: Top Speed? jnicklo Oct-07-03 12
             RE: Top Speed? EmminentThunder Oct-08-03 13
                 RE: Top Speed? j22woofteam Oct-09-03 18

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devilinblackteam
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1346 posts		 Sep-25-03, 10:35 PM (EST)
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1. "RE: Top Speed?"
In response to message #0
 
Stock is limited to 132.

With a chip?? How much road do you have? I've been up to 158 with a Jerry chip, but it probably wasn't a good idea.

disclaimer: This was done on a good road, with "Z" rated tires in excellent condition. No cars were near when I did this and the reason I shut it down at 158 was because I was aproaching traffic quickly (yes, it was still accelerating). If you try something this stupid make sure you don't put anyone but yourself at risk!



Stephen
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jnicklo
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226 posts		 Sep-25-03, 10:44 PM (EST)
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2. "RE: Top Speed?"
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   At the time, did you have any other mods to reach 158?


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devilinblackteam
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3. "RE: Top Speed?"
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Jerry chip, true dual exhaust, no mufflers (lost a bunch of low end torque), sensor lowered, K&N cone filter. That's pretty much it.


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dbu8554
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4. "RE: Top Speed?"
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   what if you just take off the speed limiter how fast can a Stock 93 with 3:08 how?


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rpward210team
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688 posts		 Sep-27-03, 03:38 AM (EST)
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5. "RE: Top Speed?"
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   Read the FAQ's on this site. Top speed and other questions will be answered.

Ryan
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Prometheous
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103 posts		 Sep-28-03, 09:33 PM (EST)
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6. "RE: Top Speed?"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-28-03 AT 09:39 PM (EDT)
 
>what if you just take off the speed limiter how fast can a
>Stock 93 with 3:08 how?

Aw, never mind. I'm sure what I originally wrote would have peeved someone. And it wasn't an insult.

"Mister, we deal in lead"- Steve McQueen, The Magnificent Seven


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jfrahmmoderator
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7. "RE: Top Speed?"
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   I believe around 150 (true, not indicated) is a fair number for a Mark with the limiter removed.

-Joel.

Joel Frahm


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Mark 8
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8. "RE: Top Speed?"
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   A Georgia Patrol-verified 155, at least!

Mark Curtis - Kennesaw, Georgia
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BlackIceLSCteam
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1765 posts		 Oct-07-03, 08:05 PM (EST)
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9. "RE: Top Speed?"
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Ok, Joe, what are you up to?.... planning on a Cannonball run in the near future.
Unlike most, I dont need to go 110+, but you can bet your arse I would want to be the first one up to 110! 0-60 yawn...60-120 yeee-haaaw!
-Black Ice
94 black/black
95 champagne/saddle


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EmminentThunder
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10. "RE: Top Speed?"
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Joe,

Mix the theoretical rpm by these factors to get the mph.

Tire Diameter for stock 225/60/16 = 26.6299
Rear End Ratio = 3.07 Stock
Final OD Trans Ratio = .7
RPM Redline = 6000

In OD at redline you get 221 mph
In 3rd at a 1-1 ratio you get 155 mph at 6000rpm

Reality would be around 165 at 4500 rpm in OD going downhill slightly. 150 mph separates the men from the boys and aerodynamics plays the biggest role.

So I say 165 is the fastest anybody will run a Mark with a chip, etc.

IMHO.

'98 Pearlescent LSC
'93 V-10 Twin Turbo Money Pit (The MonsterMark)
'93 Collecting Dust
Bryan


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BlackIceLSCteam
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11. "RE: Top Speed?"
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You forgot one key element. Air! Mathematics will tell you the numeric equation results. But physics plays a more important role. Otherwise 700hp Nascar boys would be running about 345 mph! It isnt only the flow of the air over the body, nor just the resistance that mass air provides against any moving object, but you must take into consideration the amount of air the motor will actually be able to draw into the motor at that speed. Picture the whisp of smoke used in aerodynamic wind tunnel testing. The frontal area of any car creates a "pocket" in which the car is driving through. You've heard the term "punch a hole in the air". Well, the more the frontal area of the car pushed the air around the car, the less air the motor can draw from. Top speed is more than math... alot more. Physics my dear Watson. Another one of science's evil tricks!
-Black Ice
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jnicklo
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12. "RE: Top Speed?"
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   LOL

it's just nice to know that you have the same top speed as a Z28, Corvette, trans am, m5 bmw ect.

I did 150 in an Ls1 Z28 that I test drove (took it out by myself, no dealer).

And rode in my friends 2002 M5 @ 155. Didnt seem like we were going THAT fast.


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EmminentThunder
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13. "RE: Top Speed?"
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And you forgot reading and writing are just as important as mathematics. LOL.

Did you speed read over this paragraph?. Here it is again.

"Reality would be around 165 at 4500 rpm in OD going downhill slightly. 150 mph separates the men from the boys and aerodynamics plays the biggest role." /b] That is where the word air comes from, aero. Faster you go, more air resistance. That is why I said theoretical in the calculation. The Mark is capable of inhaling enough air to push it to its theoretical speed, it just needs help.

So are you suggesting that my theoretical assessment of a Lincoln Mark VIII's potential top end is flawed as I have stated here?

'98 Pristine Pearlescent LSC
'93 V-10 Twin Turbo Money Pit (The MonsterMark)
'93 Collecting Dust
Bryan


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j22woofteam
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18. "RE: Top Speed?"
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   The Bonneville Mark VIII sucked in enough air to go 184.7 MPH .....nothing like real life & real toys.

Ron


Baton Rouge
Key West
93 MK VIII 127K Deep Jewel Green
98 MK VIII 66K Toreador Red


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